Yeah, who’s listening up?
Here’s the deal. If you claim to be anti-rape, you’ve actually got to be anti-rape. You can’t (supposedly) hate rape, while still love everything which enables rape and follows from the fact that we live in a rape culture.
That’s like calling yourself vegan as long as you didn’t actually kill the cow. It’s totally cool for you to load and hand over the gun, though, and be there with your knife and fork as soon as the stake hits the grill.
So, hey, rape fans; I’m talking to you. If you’re in favour of rape culture, you’re a rape fan. If you shout down arguments against rape culture, you’re a rape fan. If you aren’t a feminist, you’re a rape fan.
Hell, just read this article by evebitfirst, as she absolutely got there first.
i remember i fought with some dude who posted this as a mod on an anti-slut shaming fb page once for his tone policing
reblogging so i can remember to look at it again later
I like this article, but there was one thing in there that rubbed me the wrong way.
“A man is a rape-supporter if…
- He has ever sexually engaged with any woman while she was underage,…. “
I’ve had sex with people before when I was underage. It was consensual, and all those times, except one, it was MY idea. My choice. And I find it a bit offensive that according to this, all men who have sex with people while underage are rape supporters.
Now if they manipulate people into having sex with them, then that’s different.
Idk or maybe I misunderstood.
yeah, appealing to legal ages of consent is kind of offputting to me too. maybe it’s referring to much older men sleeping with women under 16? i definitely think there’s a nonnegotiable power imbalance in that situation, but not so much when there’s not much of an age gap.
What was already said.^^
I like this list mostly, but I think it’s possible to enjoy TV/movies/musicals that depict sexually objectify women as long as the guy knows that’s what’s going on and that’s not the reason he enjoys them. From a creative standpoint it’s really difficult to depict the real world without including elements like that. I don’t watch Mad Men because the level of misogyny disturbed me, but I don’t think it is bad to watch that show because it is an accurate portrayal of that period in American history.
This also does not consider the possibility of satirical commentary either. I’m just having a hard time thinking of TV shows that never objectify women.
You need to learn to let objectification truly turn your stomach like a knife, and it’s hard to do that while being attached to - and visibly attached to - media containing objectification.
I sometimes still manage to enjoy some bits of things which also contain hateful representations, but I don’t enjoy the hateful representations, and I don’t ever talk about those things uncritically - I visibly cut out holes in my expressed enjoyment around the hate.